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Question about Halal and Kosher?

I've heard from several Muslims that kosher meat is perfectly acceptable for Halal. However, I've also read that the ritual slaughterer must say the name of Allah during the process (which, obviously, a Jewish slaughterer isn't going to do.) Can someone explain this?

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Jean, both Kosher and Halal slaughter are intrinsically painless for the animal. It's a LOT more human than hunting. Read Temple Grandin's comments - http://www.grandin.com/ritual/rec.ritual.slaughter...

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Jean, both Kosher and Halal slaughter are intrinsically painless for the animal. It's a LOT more human than hunting. Read Temple Grandin's comments - http://www.grandin.com/ritual/rec.ritual.slaughter...

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My thanks to Mark and Mohammed, both of whom gave me the same, specific answer, that is, that the Halal slaughterer can bless G-d in any language, not necessarily Arabic.

And to those nudniks who made snotty comments - ferdraizle dein kopf

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  • 7 năm trước
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    You might try this link; I think it explains it.

  • 7 năm trước

    Allah (swt) says if there is nothing else, what is available is ok.

    If I was alone in a desert with a pig, I could eat it (sadly, I couldn't eat it if i want as I am allergic to pork). If there was nothing else to drink but a bottle of wine, I could drink the wine.

    Many non-meat products are kosher, which means they do not contain pork. Such as a spice (some have gelatin in them).

    The standard of slaughtering is more strict in Judaism. So, you probably won't see a Jew buy halal meat, but a Muslim buy kosher meat.

    Kosher meat is salted for an hour, so I would be worried about the sodium levels.

  • 7 năm trước

    Jean's answer is so off base it's out of the ball park.

    She is either an irrational bigot who wishes to troll and upset both Jews and Muslims with outrageously insulting misinformation to incite hate to both groups, or she's fallen prey to irrational bigoted misinformation as it's crystal clear she's not got a clue about either kasrut or hallal practices.

    It's not surprising to see though it does always make me wonder if people would post and act out like that if they had top put their real identities attached to such nastiness.

    Here is a link I just Googled and discovered that explains the differences from the Islamic perspective and it is from the Islamic Services of America website

    http://www.isaiowa.org/content/Halal-Information/H...

    According to this kosher meat does not necessarily meet hallal requirements because the prayers the schochet says before the beginning of the slaughtering, does not make the animal meet the Islamic requirements unless he prays to God before *each* animal is slaughtered. Jewish law does not require that, the following prayer is said by the schochet usually only at the beginning of the slaughtering and more than one animal may be slaughtered after it is said. If the schochet leaves the room where the slaughtering is taking place for any reason, he says the blessing upon entering before beginning to slaughter any other animals. ( it's said in Hebrew, but this is the English)

    "Blessed are You, Hashem, our God, Sovereign of the universe, Who has commanded us regarding shechitah."

    IF the schochet says this before each animal slaughtered, it would meet the requirements, however, the Islamic website IS correct that it is not done before EACH animal by the schochet in most instances. The schochet says the prayer before entering the room to begin slaughter, but may slaughter several animals before he leaves the room. Upon reentry to the slaughtering room the prayer is said again.

    There ARE schochets that do regularly sell meat that IS qualified to be hallal because they make it a point to say the blessing before each slaughter so that they CAN sell it according to Islamic law.

    "While meat from a non-Jewish source cannot be kosher, a shochet can sell certified halal meat. The dhabiha law to pray in the name of God does not require that the prayer be said in Arabic or mention Allah, and most shochets customarily bless the animal with a Hebrew prayer that includes God."

    http://www.shemayisrael.com/publicat/hazon/tzedaka... < IF Jean is truly ignorant and on the off chance has been so completely fooled without ever having bothered to check on her own at all, she can educate herself to not embarrass herself so badly again.

    http://mamaspajamaparty.blogspot.com/search/label/...

    So, the correct answer is that kosher meat CAN be hallal, but it also may not IF the schochet did not say the prayer before the slaughter of the particular animal. I would hope and trust that any respected schochet would not claim to sell hallal meat if he had not said the blessing before each slaughter.

  • 7 năm trước

    Hey you have to name god's name it doesent matter which language but if you have faith there is only one god then the animals got calm jewish Shechita (The Ramban) before they slaughter they say

    'Blessed are You, Hashem, our God, Sovereign of the universe, Who has commanded us regarding shechitah.

    check this clip from 35min-52 min and see how calm the animal be when allahs name is mentioned https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ekIMXhEYh8

    "You may slaughter from your cattle and your flocks that Hashem has given you, in the way I have commanded you" Deuteronomy 12:21

    the slaughter have to have faith in heart there is only one god the creator of everything and no one is equal with him etc then you will see animal got calm like in the video and the slaughtering is correct then. Peace~

    (Các) Nguồn: Muslim
  • Ẩn danh
    7 năm trước

    All I know is that they both torture animals to death instead of cleanly slaughtering them.

    There is no need for that other than pure blood lust that I can see.

    They have no respect for the resource or the animal. Or life itself.

    (Các) Nguồn: Lady who hunts and kills some of my own meat.
  • 7 năm trước

    They are both absurd and in the dark ages. Killing an animal is same, whatever prayers you make while doing it.

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